# Fire debugging iOS14.2
**URL:** https://talk.remobjects.com/t/fire-debugging-ios14-2/23515
**Category:** Fire
**Created:** [November 16, 2020, 3:56pm UTC](https://talk.remobjects.com/t/fire-debugging-ios14-2/23515 "2020-11-16T15:56:35Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@JeremyK](https://talk.remobjects.com/u/JeremyK)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2020, 3:56pm UTC](https://talk.remobjects.com/t/fire-debugging-ios14-2/23515/1 "2020-11-16T15:56:36Z")
I’m unable to debug on iOS 14.2 devices. It deploys to a device fine, but can’t connect. I’ve tried a new iPad and an iPhone. I have tried using two different macs all with the same result. This is the last bits of the log:
> Installation progress: 95% GeneratingApplicationMap
> DeviceAppURL=file:///private/var/containers/Bundle/Application/533B0D6F-B1E2-455E-8439-4C4E8A9A1002/Logonn.app/
> DeviceAppContainer=/var/containers/Bundle/Application/533B0D6F-B1E2-455E-8439-4C4E8A9A1002
> Deployment of app bundle successful.
> DeveloperFolder=/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer
> Architecture=arm64e
> Running /Applications/Fire.app/Contents/Resources/crossboxhelper --debug 00008020-00042DE20CE8402E 38366
> RemObjects Elements CrossBoxHelper 1.42: Starting Debug Server on Device
>
> Waiting for device: 00008020-00042DE20CE8402E
> DeveloperFolder=/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer
> DeviceSupportPath=/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/iPhoneOS.platform/DeviceSupport/14.2
> Architecture=arm64e
> Developer disk image found in /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/iPhoneOS.platform/DeviceSupport/14.2/DeveloperDiskImage.dmg
> Setup progress: 30% Looking up DeveloperDiskImage.dmg
> Setup progress: 95% Developer disk image mounted successfully
> Error: AMDeviceStartService(com.apple.debugserver) | e8000022 (-402653150)
> DetailedError: The service is invalid. (kAMDInvalidServiceError)
I wonder if it’s related to the fact that even the app (a DA client) isn’t able to connect to the server either (all works fine on older iOS), so I’m thinking maybe something has changed that I’ve missed in the networking. I also tried creating a new project in Fire (simple iOS template) with the same result.
I’ve been testing on a device rather than simulator as I also seem to have lost my list of simulators on the main mac I use, using Fire (they are there in Xcode) and I’m not sure why, though that will be a separate issue.
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### Author:  [@mh](https://talk.remobjects.com/u/mh)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2020, 4:58pm UTC](https://talk.remobjects.com/t/fire-debugging-ios14-2/23515/2 "2020-11-16T16:58:55Z")
> [@JeremyK](#):
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> DetailedError: The service is invalid. (kAMDInvalidServiceError)
Looks like Apple chawed the internal APIs for that with iOS 14.2 ☹
(was/is 14.1 fine for you? I must admit I haven’t tested on device debugging in awhile, myself).
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### Author:  [@JeremyK](https://talk.remobjects.com/u/JeremyK)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2020, 11:45am UTC](https://talk.remobjects.com/t/fire-debugging-ios14-2/23515/3 "2020-11-17T11:45:17Z")
I didn’t try 14.1, the iPad came with it, but as Xcode just arrived at the same time for 14.2 I let it update before I tried it.
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### Author:  [@mh](https://talk.remobjects.com/u/mh)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2020, 12:32pm UTC](https://talk.remobjects.com/t/fire-debugging-ios14-2/23515/4 "2020-11-17T12:32:19Z")
I’m thinking of just dropping crossbxhelper and switching to using [https://github.com/ios-control/ios-deploy](https://github.com/ios-control/ios-deploy), so I can stop worrying having to watch up with every time Apple breaks his this works, myself. I’ll see if I (hopefully) can get that integrated fro Friday…
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### Author:  [@JeremyK](https://talk.remobjects.com/u/JeremyK)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2020, 1:07pm UTC](https://talk.remobjects.com/t/fire-debugging-ios14-2/23515/5 "2020-11-17T13:07:59Z")
Interesting. I’m around so feel free to shout if you want me to try anything ahead of your release.
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### Author:  [@mh](https://talk.remobjects.com/u/mh)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2020, 1:44pm UTC](https://talk.remobjects.com/t/fire-debugging-ios14-2/23515/6 "2020-11-17T13:44:17Z")
Thanx. I should be good, I was able to reproduce the issue…
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### Author:  [@mh](https://talk.remobjects.com/u/mh)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2020, 3:54pm UTC](https://talk.remobjects.com/t/fire-debugging-ios14-2/23515/7 "2020-11-17T15:54:18Z")
Got it working with `ios-deploy`, mostly. only issue is, I don’t seem to be getting symbols. But then, I also don’t _see_ any `Symbols` subfolders in /Users/mh/Applications/Xcode-12.2-GM.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/iPhoneOS.platform/DeviceSupport/14.2 at all, which is also where `crossboxhelper` would have located them… Downloading 12.3 now to see if that fixes anything (as my phone in on 14.3)…
Do those exists for you?
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### Author:  [@JeremyK](https://talk.remobjects.com/u/JeremyK)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2020, 4:12pm UTC](https://talk.remobjects.com/t/fire-debugging-ios14-2/23515/8 "2020-11-17T16:12:05Z")
> [@mh](#):
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> Do those exists for you?
There’s just these
 in every folder.
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### Author:  [@mh](https://talk.remobjects.com/u/mh)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2020, 5:05pm UTC](https://talk.remobjects.com/t/fire-debugging-ios14-2/23515/9 "2020-11-17T17:05:51Z")
Solved. hopefully I’ll have a new Fire build for you in a few hours.
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### Author:  [@mh](https://talk.remobjects.com/u/mh)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2020, 8:07pm UTC](https://talk.remobjects.com/t/fire-debugging-ios14-2/23515/10 "2020-11-17T20:07:20Z")
> Build for 20201117-200556-fire-develop [setups] started on gazorpazorp
this one should be done in about an hour on the firehose.
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### Author:  [@JeremyK](https://talk.remobjects.com/u/JeremyK)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2020, 12:40pm UTC](https://talk.remobjects.com/t/fire-debugging-ios14-2/23515/11 "2020-11-18T12:40:04Z")
Tried it (actually was -210359), and it builds, the last thing in the log says:
Running “/Volumes/Fire 10.0.0.2572/Fire.app/Contents/Resources/ios-deploy” --id 00008020-00042DE20CE8402E --bundle /Users/Jeremy/Documents/GitHub/StockSoftware/Mobile/LogOnn/bin/Debug/iOS/Logonn.app
But nothing happened. It didn’t even copy it across (I can tell this as I have the app store version on the iPad which should be replaced by this update). This is all there is on console, when I press run:
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### Author:  [@JeremyK](https://talk.remobjects.com/u/JeremyK)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2020, 12:44pm UTC](https://talk.remobjects.com/t/fire-debugging-ios14-2/23515/12 "2020-11-18T12:44:46Z")
Mmm, oddly, I then tried another iPad with iOS 12.4.9 and Fire won’t even let me select it in the device list. As I don’t have any simulators showing on this mac either, the run command it only available if I plug the original iPad (14.2) in.
I’ll go and try it on the other mac, where I do have simulators.
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### Author:  [@mh](https://talk.remobjects.com/u/mh)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2020, 12:52pm UTC](https://talk.remobjects.com/t/fire-debugging-ios14-2/23515/13 "2020-11-18T12:52:17Z")
> [@JeremyK](#):
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> Mmm, oddly, I then tried another iPad with iOS 12.4.9 and Fire won’t even let me select it in the device list. As I don’t have any simulators showing on this mac either, the run command it only available if I plug the original iPad (14.2) in.
curious,. iff you run `crossboxhelper --listdevices`, what does it show?
> [@JeremyK](#):
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> Running “/Volumes/Fire 10.0.0.2572/Fire.app/Contents/Resources/ios-deploy” --id 00008020-00042DE20CE8402E --bundle /Users/Jeremy/Documents/GitHub/StockSoftware/Mobile/LogOnn/bin/Debug/iOS/Logonn.app
Hmm, no output at all? can you see if `/Volumes/Fire 10.0.0.2572/Fire.app/Contents/Resources/ios-deploy` is executable, and iff not do `chmod +x` on it (might need to have to copy fire off the DMG for that). I’ll see why the build doesn’t set that, but my local built-from-script Fire just failed on the same (even though when I tested yesterday wit was fine).
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### Author:  [@JeremyK](https://talk.remobjects.com/u/JeremyK)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2020, 1:16pm UTC](https://talk.remobjects.com/t/fire-debugging-ios14-2/23515/14 "2020-11-18T13:16:06Z")
> [@mh](#):
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> `Fire.app/Contents/Resources/ios-deploy`
That’s not actually present in the app !
> [@mh](#):
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> curious,. iff you run `crossboxhelper --listdevices`, what does it show?
If I run that or --listsimulators then I get nothing other than this:
RemObjects Elements CrossBoxHelper 1.5:
```
Syntax:
crossboxhelper --simulator
crossboxhelper --simulator-debug
crossboxhelper --deploy
crossboxhelper --debug (will not exit)
crossboxhelper --monitormobiledevices (will not exit)
crossboxhelper --listcerts
crossboxhelper --listsimulators
Optional arguments for --simulator, --simulator-debug and --debug:
crossboxhelper --args "arg1;arg2;arg3"
crossboxhelper --env "var1=x;var2=y"
crossboxhelper --stdout "/temp/path"
Optional arguments for --simulator and --simulator-debug:
crossboxhelper --sdk iOS|watchOS|tvOS
crossboxhelper --sdkversion 9.0|8.4|...
crossboxhelper --device
crossboxhelper --32bit
crossboxhelper --64bit
crossboxhelper --watch --42mm
crossboxhelper --watch --38mm
crossboxhelper --tv
```
If I run the --listcerts option then I do get a result.
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### Author:  [@mh](https://talk.remobjects.com/u/mh)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2020, 1:40pm UTC](https://talk.remobjects.com/t/fire-debugging-ios14-2/23515/15 "2020-11-18T13:40:14Z")
> [@JeremyK](#):
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> `--monitormobiledevices `
Sorry, meant `--monitormobiledevices`
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### Author:  [@mh](https://talk.remobjects.com/u/mh)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2020, 1:41pm UTC](https://talk.remobjects.com/t/fire-debugging-ios14-2/23515/16 "2020-11-18T13:41:14Z")
> [@JeremyK](#):
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> That’s not actually present in the app !
WTF. I’ll need to check whats going on…
Can you drop in the attached file? (unzipped ofc)?
[ios-deploy.zip](https://talk.remobjects.com/uploads/short-url/cT9XEX7sYzZz6prDt3XUmWwLowg.zip) (121.2 KB)
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### Author:  [@JeremyK](https://talk.remobjects.com/u/JeremyK)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2020, 1:43pm UTC](https://talk.remobjects.com/t/fire-debugging-ios14-2/23515/17 "2020-11-18T13:43:12Z")
> [@mh](#):
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> Sorry, meant `--monitormobiledevices`
With the new iPad:
```
RemObjects Elements CrossBoxHelper 1.5: Monitoring for Mobile Devices
Device: connected: ID=00008020-00042DE20CE8402E | Name=iPad | OSVersion=14.2 | OSBuild=18B92 | Device=iPad | Type=iPad11,1 | Model=MUQW2 | Architecture=arm64e | State=Activated | PhoneNo=(null) | Serial=DMPDGPG0LM93 | Paired=YES
```
With the old one:
```
RemObjects Elements CrossBoxHelper 1.5: Monitoring for Mobile Devices
Device: disconnected: ID=(null)
Device: connected: ID=376cec5c3c8f09cbd6e1e8062d027b573fe1538f | Name=Stocktake’s iPad | OSVersion=12.4.9 | OSBuild=16H5 | Device=iPad | Type=iPad4,4 | Model=ME276 | Architecture=arm64 | State=Activated | PhoneNo=(null) | Serial=DLXP55D5FCM5 | Paired=YES
```
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### Author:  [@mh](https://talk.remobjects.com/u/mh)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2020, 1:44pm UTC](https://talk.remobjects.com/t/fire-debugging-ios14-2/23515/18 "2020-11-18T13:44:46Z")
hmm, and the new one doesnt show in the IDE\< but the old one does? freaky, they both look the same’ish, aside from then change in ID format (which iirc I just treat as a string…)
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### Author:  [@JeremyK](https://talk.remobjects.com/u/JeremyK)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2020, 1:45pm UTC](https://talk.remobjects.com/t/fire-debugging-ios14-2/23515/19 "2020-11-18T13:45:20Z")
> [@mh](#):
>
> Can you drop in the attached file? (unzipped ofc)?
Now it does the same as Fire did before, i.e.:
```
Deployment of app bundle successful.
DeveloperFolder=/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer
Architecture=arm64e
Running /Applications/Fire.app/Contents/Resources/crossboxhelper --debug 00008020-00042DE20CE8402E 17108
RemObjects Elements CrossBoxHelper 1.42: Starting Debug Server on Device
Waiting for device: 00008020-00042DE20CE8402E
DeveloperFolder=/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer
DeviceSupportPath=/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/iPhoneOS.platform/DeviceSupport/14.2
Architecture=arm64e
Developer disk image found in /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/iPhoneOS.platform/DeviceSupport/14.2/DeveloperDiskImage.dmg
Setup progress: 30% Looking up DeveloperDiskImage.dmg
Setup progress: 95% Developer disk image mounted successfully
Error: AMDeviceStartService(com.apple.debugserver) | e8000022 (-402653150)
DetailedError: The service is invalid. (kAMDInvalidServiceError)
```
On the old iPad, it works.
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### Author:  [@JeremyK](https://talk.remobjects.com/u/JeremyK)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2020, 1:46pm UTC](https://talk.remobjects.com/t/fire-debugging-ios14-2/23515/20 "2020-11-18T13:46:58Z")
Hang on, I think I had the wrong Fire…
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